tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37886248.post1225046133408111408..comments2024-03-13T00:41:52.105-07:00Comments on Casual Kitchen: Doing More Harm Than GoodDanielhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02388302796031288076noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37886248.post-39730158724938392972011-11-14T08:38:03.408-08:002011-11-14T08:38:03.408-08:00Thanks for your post "Doing More Harm Than Go...Thanks for your post "Doing More Harm Than Good." There's a number of misperceptions about what happens to donated clothing from the U.S. The majority (60%) of all donated clothing collected by national (Goodwill, Salvation Army, St. Vincent de Paul, etc.) and local charities is sold for shipment overseas. Only 20-25% of donations are actually sold in U.S. thrift stores. Charities use the funds from donated clothing to pay for their missions here and abroad. Used textiles are in the top ten of all U.S. exports. The global textile trade is a $1 trillion a year enterprise employing millions every day. Donated clothes are seldom just given away as you assert. Most clothing is sold and resold multiple times - from wholesaler, to distributor to shipper to retailer. Most who handle clothing at the retail end are small shopkeepers and family businesses. When surviving on less than a couple of dollars a day extra income from clothes sales is a vital means of daily revenue for food, shelter, medicine and yes clothing. Regarding the impact of donated clothing on overseas garment industries. One of of every four garments purchased in the U.S. is manufactured in China alone.Do we need other developing countries to produce more sweat shops to sell cheap clothing to western nations? Already, the U.S. cannot handle the mounting pile of excess clothing. Only 15% of used clothing and textiles gets recycled in U.S. mainly through shipping to other countries. The rest - 85% is buried in local landfills or burned in incinerators. The facts above are well-documented and can be found in several locations. BIR (Burea of International Recycling, S.M.A.R.T.- recycling assoc. in U.S.; and Earth911 for starters.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37886248.post-61209194530927560242011-11-12T20:29:27.147-08:002011-11-12T20:29:27.147-08:00I feel that the best you can give is time and educ...I feel that the best you can give is time and education.<br />About donation, i am right now in the lougne at New Delhi International airport and yesterday I went to see the Taj Mahal... and it's hundreds of beggers.<br />I must say I wasn't bothered that much because I went early in the morning but of course feeling rather uncomfortable. Most guide books tell you to be careful because if you start giving to someone you will end giving to everyone. The word spreads fast and soon you get surrounded by beggers.<br />So what should you do??<br /><br />BTW, it's true what they say: incredible India!Marc-Olivier Meunierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08282460697119465889noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37886248.post-61058652805041300392011-11-03T06:41:44.916-07:002011-11-03T06:41:44.916-07:00And a quick thought to weigh in on AmandaLP's ...And a quick thought to weigh in on AmandaLP's and Shauna's comments:<br /><br />On one level I agree with Amanda's premise, although I'd rather think most of us do charity to help others, not simply for the concommitant good feelings it gives us. <br /><br />But another issue is that it's hard to climb out of our own brains. Sometimes what people think really "helps" just... doesn't. <br /><br />Which makes me <em>completely</em> agree with both Amanda's and Shauna's conclusions: don't assume you know where your money is going--and try to keep your donations local so you can try to assess the effects (both intended and unintended) of what you do.<br /><br />Great, great insights from both of you. <br /><br />DKDanielhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02388302796031288076noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37886248.post-31627339602117489642011-11-03T06:34:16.176-07:002011-11-03T06:34:16.176-07:00Great comment Janet. And I hear you--I have mixed ...Great comment Janet. And I hear you--I have mixed feelings too. The problem with a medical mission, as I'm sure you well know, is you don't always know the conditions on the ground until you're actually there with a team. I guess it's up to us (as best we can) to make a determination about the true needs of a community and use that as a basis for choosing locations in the future. Thanks for your thoughts, as always.<br /><br />DKDanielhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02388302796031288076noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37886248.post-71449220746794534452011-11-02T20:49:31.635-07:002011-11-02T20:49:31.635-07:00Dan: I have mixed feelings about this entire issu...Dan: I have mixed feelings about this entire issue. I too have gone on several optometric missions, and for the most part I do think what I have done has been helpful. Here is why: I went to Nicaragua (about four years ago) and although I wasn't a huge distance from Managua the village we helped might as well have been on the moon. The problem was one of infrastructure. We visited a small agricultural village with no physician, pharmacy, dentist OR optometrist...and none likely to set up shop any time soon. Why? Because for four to five months of the year the roads are washed out (during rainy season). They were barely passable during good weather (in fact we left a day early when rain was forcast - we were seriously worried about being stuck there and needing to be airlifted out if we didn't...). The group I was with gave many individuals a years' worth of medicines ...they were their only medical contact for that time period. I felt that although it wasn't an ideal situation, we truly were giving care that would not have been given otherwise.<br /><br />Another mission I participated in went to a small town in Northern Mexico. Again, the town was very isolated geographically. This town did have a resident doctor, but he was a recent medical graduate serving his government service and had little experience. We were able to educate him, and pass on permanent knowledge that would be useful to the community. Interestingly enough, the Mexican government would only allow us to be there giving care if we would agree to provide education for their resident physician.<br /><br />I have turned down several opportunities recently to travel with Lion's Clubs' trips to Mexico. Concerns regarding safety have caused recent trips to be held in larger, more accessible urban areas (even in Mexico City!) I agree with you in those cases that the people are better served finding care within their communities.<br /><br />btw, another "medical mission" that you might look at is that of SEVA international (www.seva.org). Yes, one of the founders was Wavy Gravy. Yes, that Wavy Gravy. SEVA is dedicated to sustainable eye and health care around the world. They don't go in and do cataract surgery; they teach local surgeons modern tecniques and help provide the necessary equipment (phaco units, etc). They are worthy of our donations.Janet C.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37886248.post-73290070414790130792011-11-01T15:54:24.929-07:002011-11-01T15:54:24.929-07:00An excellent point by Amanda, above, about asking ...An excellent point by Amanda, above, about asking what is needed rather than assuming. In overseas cases, of course we really have NO idea what is being done with our monetary or other donations. Dan, you and your wife have at least the benefit of going personally to the places you help and assessing the ultimate effects of your actions...such a great article, and perhaps if more of us truly give some (more) thought to our charitable acts they will ultimately have far more positive impact = everyone wins.Shaunahttp://breathingprosperity.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37886248.post-84553392315481075952011-11-01T13:14:53.293-07:002011-11-01T13:14:53.293-07:00The issue is that most people do charity to feel g...The issue is that most people do charity to feel good about themselves, and not to actually help other people. Most people have no idea what a person or community actually needs, and so we waste a lot of our resources doing things that do not help.<br /><br />I agree with the above commentor, donating locally may be the best solution. Find an organization that is doing good work, and ASK THEM what you can best do to support them. Sometimes a few hours of your time is worth more than lots of money, and sometimes giving money for specific causes is counterproductive.AmandaLPhttp://empiricalbaker.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37886248.post-25289168868397062012011-11-01T11:11:27.002-07:002011-11-01T11:11:27.002-07:00Some great comments and insights so far. Some reac...Some great comments and insights so far. Some reactions:<br /><br />Anon: all the more reason to take great care when making donations of this sort. <br /><br />Jenna: I think the commercials you speak of are a fixture on TV because they work. I'm dating myself, but my TV growing up had those same types of ads with Sally Struthers. But just because an ad evokes an emotional response doesn't mean you have to obey that ad--like you say, you can instead give locally to a charity you yourself know is effective. To me that's the key.<br /><br />Laura: you nailed it. People often don't want to face the idea that their "good" actions aren't as good as they thought. <br /><br />Chacha1: The analysis you're making is <em>exactly</em> what I'd like to see in all my readers when they assess their acts of charity and giving. Thanks for articulating it so well.<br /><br />DKDanielhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02388302796031288076noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37886248.post-26056453354526618962011-11-01T09:49:40.211-07:002011-11-01T09:49:40.211-07:00I think giving any kind of hard goods, from weapon...I think giving any kind of hard goods, from weapons to clothing to food, is probably *more often* a net negative when we are talking about overseas giving. <br /><br />If you cannot ensure fair distribution of the goods - and we can't - you shouldn't be sending them over. There will ALWAYS be profiteers, and the nations most in need of assistance are generally also the nations with the most-corrupt "governments."<br /><br />I am almost as skeptical about giving money, because the missions of so many donation-based organizations are so often tied to religious or other ideological biases.<br /><br />For a long, long time, my only donations to organization serving outside the U.S. have been to Habitat for Humanity, and Heifer International. Because both organizations tie together education of the recipient, the labor of the recipient, and a community involvement component. <br /><br />They are not giving handouts, they are helping to build stable and self-sufficient environments.<br /><br />I agree with Jenna that for in-kind donations, the immediate community is the best destination. There is ALWAYS someone in need, often right next door.chacha1http://www.ombailamos.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37886248.post-76429110013278346722011-11-01T09:43:36.585-07:002011-11-01T09:43:36.585-07:00I am SO glad to hear someone else saying this sort...I am SO glad to hear someone else saying this sort of thing!! I have taken a lot of flack for suggesting similar things about the real economics of things. Well written. Thanks.Laurahttp://dailyimprovisations.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37886248.post-3730707201565616772011-11-01T08:13:06.217-07:002011-11-01T08:13:06.217-07:00I'll admit, more and more - despite an uncomfo...I'll admit, more and more - despite an uncomfortable and unsettled feeling of amorphous guilt caused by one too many commercials with Sarah Mclachlan wailing in the background and visions of big eyed hungry kids staring me down - I try to keep my donations local.<br /><br />It's more romantic to be the heroic savior to some distant land, the image of some now suddenly fed and education child who through your 'mere cost of a cup of coffee a day', laying down each night, your picture clutched in their hand as they list you gratefully in their prayers for rescuing them... than to just hand a bag of groceries over in your own hum-drum town. I also think folks like the 'far away' aspect because it allows us to think nasty things like hunger, lack of education, illness... are all something "Else". They are other. Distant and remote - no one wants to think their neighbor is going to bed hungry - it's too close to thinking it could happen to you.<br /><br />It's not as romantic (complete with hazy distance and intermittent postcards) but these days... I try to do my best to turn OFF those horrid commercials - and look around to see what my town needs. I feel selfish for doing it sometimes, but hey. Into everyone's life a little unsettling guilt must fall.Jennahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06185436739526161223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37886248.post-8742296382007276712011-11-01T04:42:32.346-07:002011-11-01T04:42:32.346-07:00I've been to Africa, those clothes are NOT bei...I've been to Africa, those clothes are NOT being given to anyone for free. They are being taken and SOLD in markets.<br /><br />(Maybe not taken by a warlord/drug dealer/dictator - but most definitely SOLD!)<br /><br />But even on the ABC/CBS/NBC/CNN/FOX news you hear about food meant for famine victims being stolen... (It is not a huge leap from food aid to clothing.)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com